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Status Not under consideration
Created by Guest
Created on Aug 13, 2018

Automatic removal of poison messages to backout queue

Currently IBM MQ provides options of BOQNAME in a local queue so that client can leverage it to dump poison messages however the burden lies at client side to move such messages and if there is an existing client which never used this option then code change needs to be done.

This request is ask if it is possible to remove bad message from a queue by MQ itself and back it out to the BOQNAME, without having the burden from application client to do the same.

Idea priority High
RFE ID 123551
RFE URL
RFE Product IBM MQ
  • Guest
    Feb 10, 2022

    The requirement in the client has unexpected consequences when using a transacted polling approach. Spring's DMLC does this. This gets more and more widely used. https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/issues/27987

  • Guest
    Nov 25, 2021

    We recognise that this is a valid requirement. However it doesn't fit with our delivery plans for the next couple of years.

    As a result we are declining this Idea. While declined the Idea can still be voted, and commented, upon.

  • Guest
    Sep 17, 2018

    I believe the general support attitude in MQ implementation is for the queue manager to not manipulate messages on its own. As such, in order to implement this request, I believe a new attribute would be required for the QLocals, type normal:
    1. BACKOUT - yes or no
    - NO - default value - automatic backout of a poison message is not performed, and the current message will continue to be presented until the application deletes the message itself, or the mssage is deleted via an administrative or ancillary utility. This option preserves and perpetuates existing functionality. With 'NO' as the default value for the attribute, no code or configuration changes will be required for message processing to continue as it operates today.
    - YES - automatic backout of a poison message can be performed by the queue manager when the value of BACKOUTCOUNT exceeds the value of the BOTHRESH attribute for the QueueLocal. The current message would be MQPUT to the queue defined in the corresponding BOQNAME attribute and deleted from the current queue. A COD message would not be generated, as the message has not been retrieved from the original destination and will not have resulted a definitive final disposition for the message.