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Status Not under consideration
Workspace MQ, MQ Advanced & MQ Appliance
Created by Guest
Created on Jun 1, 2023

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DR/HA RDQM Supporting a 5-node solution within a datacenter.

US Bank has 2 datacenters (primary and secondary).  Within each of the datacenters (primary and secondary) there are 2 independent separate pods.  For all practical purposes you can consider these individual datacenters within a datacenter.  This is designed so we can perform maintenance in one pod without impacting the other pod.  We would like DR/HA RDQM to support a 5-node solution within each of our datacenters (primary and secondary).  Within a datacenter, we would put 3 RDQM nodes in pod 1 and 2 RDQM nodes in pod 2.  This way in the event of a loss of a pod we would not have to move to our recovery site.  Please see the attached PDF.   We would expect this solution to also replicate asynchronous between the DR/HA RDQMs from the main site to the disaster recovery site.  With a 5-node solution, the only time we would be required to move to our disaster recovery site is if we have a total loss of our primary datacenter.  With a 3-node solution, if we lost pod 1 which has 2 of the RDQM nodes, we would be forced to move to our recovery site despite the fact that we would still have a fully functioning pod 2.   

US Bank is in the process of moving to DR/HA RDQM and would like to deploy the 5-node solution.  In order to do this we need to know that IBM will support this deployment.  

Thanks, 

Duane 

US Bank RDQM.pdf
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Idea priority Urgent
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    Mark Taylor
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    |     Jul 25, 2023

    • RDQM currently supports three patterns; a 3-node HA configuration, a 2-node DR configuration, and a 6-node HA+DR configuration. The 6-node configuration represents DR between two 3-node HA groups. This Idea is requesting that we support a 10-node HA+DR configuration that has an HA quorum of 5 nodes at each site. A 5-node quorum can tolerate the loss of two nodes, whereas a 3-node quorum can tolerate the loss of only 1 node. This means that a 5-node quorum would need to have multiple failures for RDQM queue managers to go down (or encounter a failure while another node is down for maintenance). There are valid reasons why customers might be interested in this level of resiliency, but it is not a piroirty item for development. Replicating data between more systems also introduces complexity and the potential for performance degradation.


    • It is also worth noting that this customer's particular reason for wanting a 5-node quorum is not valid. They want to divide each of their sites into two availability zones. They have noted that with a 3-node quorum they would have 2 nodes in one zone and a single node in the other zone at each site. They have requested a 5-node quorum so they could have at least 2 nodes in each zone. Although they wouldn't then have a zone with just a single node, they would still lose quorum if they lost the zone with 3-nodes. Dividing a quorum in to two always has this problem, so increasing the number of nodes would not address this problem.


    • The customer also discussed this requirement on the MQ listserv group. A reply on that forum explained the problems with dividing a quorum into two parts, .

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